The broken stuff in me has more to do with my burnout and the path Im on than anything else. I dont know. If only you can use your wisdom appropriately. "COVID revealed a fundamental weakness in the Church," the pastor recently told Relevant magazine in an interview. Also, although you might feel like Im being judgmental, its necessary. The Purpose Driven Life misuses Bible texts, so Warren can make the points he wants to. His battles with the church arent over, How Palm Springs ran out Black and Latino families to build a fantasy for rich, white people, 17 SoCal hiking trails that are blooming with wildflowers (but probably not for long! Christian unity: https://thesetapartwalk.com/christian-unity-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/ Pastors also have not always been good about leading themselves. Second, help people clearly understand what youre asking them to do. It sounds like Warren based his church on fundamental biblical principles, so what can I say? Usually, theyre way off base, and many end up in the trash because they are just personal insults directed at me. Church membership is suggested but not insisted upon. Catholics believe in Transubstantiation, Do You have Communion? I can assure you that I spent time prayerfully considering the points you made in your comment. No one can live up to the gospel. The short answers are as follows: I was saved on May 3, 2009. 1. It would be wonderful if leaders in the SBC and/or members of his church would pull him aside, but they either havent or it hasnt worked. I was 26 years old, and I am the first born-again person in my family. Romans 14 is about not having disunity over disputable matters. The whole world talks this way to each other & about each other. Your argument that you got something from what he has written is not a valid one when the discussion is whether or not his teachings are rooted in Scripture. Those churches were disfellowshipped [removed] from their local associations, and it never came to a vote in the national convention in the way that this is happening. Celebrate Recovery uses this verse to support the principle that to recover, I need to examine and confess my faults to myself, to God, and to someone I trust. This is a completely unrelated interpretation of that verse. There is nothing I have said that has been against the Lord. They have also held positions of leadership and responsibilities in spreading the Gospel. You and your kind are the epitome of a modern Pharisee. But thank you for considering what I wrote and writing a thoughtful comment. Lets pretend you read this watered down gospel, and you want to be saved. Every time someone, hits you with a negative or personal attack, you come right back because youre argument is based purely on scripture and I am blown away and in some cases admittedly Im a bit amused at how professionally and to the point you handle everything. We fail, and the gospel is the good news that Jesus has offered us as the way to be reconciled to God. What should believers do about pastors who lead others astray? So, once again, we see a poorly given gospel message with more focus on Saddlebacks product than anything else. What about being a Saint, and Living as a Hermit? I think its part of acknowledging our limits; God gives us permission to stop, even though theres still more that could be done. For Rick to do what he did in Southern California required some different strategies and different ways of communicating, and that was unsettling to traditional hard-line Southern Baptists. Of course, the problem with a man-centered church like Saddleback is that the church is bound together by a celebrity pastor rather than by the blood of Christ. You are allowed your opinion, as am I. I am not seeking to tear down another Christian. (* I have read through the leader information when previously considering starting CR in a previous church.). You say that you were saved in CR, but youre not demonstrating a very Christlike attitude towards me. I always thought burnout was about all the externals around you. I love family, homeschooling, and most of all Jesus. A couple of examples include Luke 11:37-54 (the woes) and Luke 13:14-17 (calling out hypocrites). Youre describing issues common to many mega churches, and you might consider that youll see these people in Heaven one day. Very insightful thank you for your faithful service. She was recently named a teaching pastor and three other women were ordained as associate pastors. I dont know if someone designed the Rick Warren pastor page to be this cringeworthy on purpose or if it was a terrible accident. Third, experiences dont trump the Bible. We should all avoid proof texting. Hes literally ushering in a one world religion and setting the stage for the anti-Christ. Lance and his wife, Connie, have been married thirty-eight years and have two married children and four beautiful granddaughters. Public teachers do not fall under the Matthew 18 category. Faithful, Obedient, and Counter-Cultural Christian Living. Rick Warren Retires From Saddleback Megachurch So, when a Christian recovery program misuses and abuses Scripture, I see a secular program with a veneer of Christianity. So it was a huge growth for us. I'm so happy to say that my church now has a campus on my hometown of South Bay here in . It seems like we will have to agree to disagree. Finally, you clearly think that I am picking apart someone while not seeing my own mistakes. And as a side note: A large audience (which is what Saddleback has) is not necessarily indicative of a successful church. I too felt things were off with Warrens works and when I started to study the Word in relation to Warrens teachings I found his work to be eisegesical.

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